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Here!
She adds an alternate ending.
Vid by Hector

P.S.  If you look to the right of the bass drum, you can see a painting that Hector's friend Lopez painted of Kristeen. He gave it to her before the show and she put it up on stage.  It looks awesome.


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DAMN!

<small>"You'll have to work hard?" I can't figure out exactly what she says. She's definitely not ENTIRELY pleased about it, though.</small>

I love that last bit...it sounds funereal.

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The spoken bit sounds like something she was told, and is repeating incredulously, rather than something she's telling. Maybe I'm super-wrong, though. I wonder if it's from the inaudible spoken bit at the end of the recorded Protestant, or is new.

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I love that dress, she looks like a disco ball (or is the correct term mirror ball? i always feel like saying mirror globe very deeply (glooowwwbuh) whenever i see that dress... i don't know why).

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That was a great video. The black and white with her hair looked amazing.

That guy was so excited... it was refreshing to see someone SO enthused!

And ugh, I've always hated how they start to blare canned music RIGHT after.

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Yeah, it gave it the kind of unearthed-archive-footage feel that the hair suits itself to.

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Amazing! I love that ending! It felt so raw; very beautiful. I live for the music those two make. I'm entertaining the idea of a KY tattoo... this recorded performance is pushing me to make the idea real

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E - One of "myspace friends" has one I believe.  I think I remember seeing a photo of it.... I THINK it reads Morrissey" and 'KRISTEENYOUNG' underneath.  I can't remember exactly.
Would you get one that reads "KY" or something lyrical?

Hey Rachel, YES , that's what I thought too.  "You'll have to work hard..." and that it was something like in the vein 'Buddy Boy' was written... if you know what I mean.

I think this was very well-video'ed!  A MSfriend sent it to me - he said he would send pictures too :)

I'll have to thank him again, I really like this video.

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From what I could see in the St. Louis show vids, it was a FABULOUS show.  People in audience yelling for her and big cheers.
 

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Yeah KYK, I saw that tattoo somewhere on myspace too actually, its cute.

I'm thinking of the KY from the button. I love that button. I wear it everyday like a badge of honor haha. When I first saw it, it was like a mind trick. I couldn't make out the letters KY exactly. It kinda looks like a shield or an eye to me. I love the ambiguousness of it. Also I love hologram. :D Hmmm, maybe in the future there will be hologram tattoos.... awesome.

I can't stop watching this video, so I had to put it on my myspace.

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The spoken bit sounds like something she was told, and is repeating incredulously, rather than something she's telling.

-rachel

I agree. I want this part recorded on an album. I've listened to it repeatedly already. And I like the other new little part after that. It sounds dark and creepy.

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She always wanted to be Catholic - but was cursed in being a Protestant.
Maybe "You have to work hard" was something she was told by a priest when she inquired on how to become a catholic.  That seems too simple though.  Probably something else.

It sounds like something she's repeating because she can't believe it or can't believe it was told to her that way and it's now making her daft by the time she is yelling it as if it's her descent into madness.

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My guess, and it's just a guess, it may be a reference to Weber's The Protestant Ethic and The Spirit of Capitalism.

While catholics are raised under an ethic of  'pity', most of the protestant branches of christianism appeal to a 'hard work' ethic. This work ethic helped some nations to develop a successful economic system: Capitalism. Is goes deeper & further, but you get it.

In some way, if she has always being a protestant, and she has been working hard, specially on the music industry, it seems that all the hard work doesn't pay, as much as it is supposed.


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That makes a ton of sense, Elliot. I wouldn't be surprised if that was it.

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Amazing ending, I love it!  There is definitely a spookier/more haunting vibe in that new ending.  Some other great videos from the same person on YouTube, amazing stuff. 

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You make a really good point Elliot.
I always took the song to be more on the sardonic side rather than the literal. Especially because of the way that she pronounces "protestant."

My wild-shot-in-the-dark-no-research mini analysis of the ending phrase is:

Maybe the phrase came from the idea of being back in her hometown, the place where it all started. "You'll have to work hard" is what comes to mind when you start a band and eventually decide to move away from home to further pursue an unconventional career. "You'll have to work hard;" which she has, and here she is back at the beginning... That, paired with "Protestant" being about her growing up, in a sense, in this religious conventionality where the choice is either Catholic or Protestant.... 

This is probably a stretch but it's just what I thought of initially...

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I don't think Evelyn's point is a stretch. It's just one of many possible and sometimes mutually exclusive takes, but it sure isn't a stretch.

It's also worth noting that "catholic" and "protestant" both have lowercase meanings as well, words with Latin roots from which the churches took their names - "catholic" means all-inclusive, universal, whereas "protestant" is from the Latin "pro testare," meaning "to be a witness for" (at least, that's what I just found when I actually bothered to look it up in a religious encyclopedia; also, Wikipedia says "protestari" and "to publicly declare," which may or may not be a simple variant).

Hence, possibly, always wanting to be mainstream, universal, but being thwarted by one's own tendency toward public declaration. 

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R - I just ripped off your Latin finding of "pro testare", and caressed and smacked onto my status and mood.  I owe you one Shirley Temple.

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Listening to "If You Marry Him"  and wondering why this isn't played at live shows as much as the others.  It rocks ~~  And I like her middle register in this song too. "it's nature's game, you do you in."

And... are we going to hear My Keyboard's Like a Gun live?

In the live shows I've seen since her new album's release, I haven't heard Halfway Across the Atlantic Ocean with too much emphasis on the guitar sounding part.... you know the part that sounds like a haunted blended wailing guitar in the background.  If if if the venues could only do it right and turn up the keyboard.  I'm not saying hearing this song in any way shape or form is nothing but freaking mind-blowing....I'm just blabbing out thoughts.  (Gods help me.)


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What, do you think, would be one's reasons for wanting to be a Catholic?  It's mystery, it's rituals, smoke and robes, formality?
 
I don't mean this to sound disrespectful to Catholics - my question is, what is the allure, do you think?
 
I have my own ideas of what is alluring about it... or if I read Rachel's post correctly, do you think Catholicism represents the masses, wanting to be like everyone else and the song should be taken as sarcasm.



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