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Wake up, it's Kristmaas!

http://www.popnography.com/2008/11/hummer-kristeen.html This is the link to the review referred to in KY's MySpace blog, with mp3.

http://idolator.com/5084306/kristeenyoung-and-patrick-stump-bring-the-drama And here's a similarly positive review at Idolator, hooray! Do NOT complain about the Tori Amos name-check; it's a positive Amos name-check, and I think this is the rare KY song that invites the comparison, anyway.

This track itself and I...have already gone on a journey, let's put it that way. Somehow I slept on it and woke up with a completely opposing opinion. I went to bed thinking three plays had left me with no impression whatsoever, and I woke up with it reverberating through my head from end to end, triumphantly refusing to be ignored. It must've spent the whole night establishing its base camps and hiring its Sherpas, even as I actually dreamt about MCing a concert series while wearing mismatched shoes and bad glasses.

A lot of it had to do with getting over the presence of Patrick Stump, against whom I was hell-bent from the name onwards...but in a way I still can't define, Stump's vocal is working for me, or on me. I'll leave that one for posterity and go listen again.

Three thousand throats!

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I will say, I do not like him or their band. But, his vocals on this song aren't the worst thing I've heard. However, I'm disappointed that he sang on the part he did because from the snippet the Bike Tragedy guy shared that part was the most beautifully layered vocal part I've heard from her (which I was really looking forward to hearing, in full). Her voice just seems more rich and intense when she sings lower (like at that part) than Patrick's, which I think would have suited the song better. But I still loooove this song.
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I do love Kristeen's lower register and the demo version of the song, and I really really hope there's a "reprised" solo vocal on the album as there was with "No Other God." I just think this one stands on its own in a way no prior KY duet has for me.

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Actually, I was guessing it was going to be Pete when I noticed FOB up on KY's myspace top friends. Hopefully along with this Duet she will consider releasing her Solo Duet i.e. the one with her singing both parts. After hearing B.T.'s snippet, (admittedly) I really dug KY's lower range vocals. Hearing both her ranges on display and patterned together in one song was divine.
However, it's Very cool that this download was given out early and free though, I suspect it won't be available very long this way ...

Very appreciative of everything Kristeen and Baby have shared with us musically. And thanks Rachel for the link and the post!

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I am honestly ignorant about Fall Out Boy. Are they popular? What is the creative connection? I'm out of the loop on this one, but - love the song, think it's very haunting, and it does sneak up on you in its simplicity!

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Is FOB popular? Eh. They had a radio saturated single called "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race"... I admit I do like Pete Wentz's voice. But Patrick will do in a pinch.

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Oh, and the connection is likely just a few degrees of separation: Pete Wentz is a Morrissey fan and has said so on a interview I saw somewhere. I would think his bandmates have similar tastes. Many Moz fans are also KY fans, if I may so boldly say so.

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So... if a + b = c and c-a = b then c-b = a. Uh, errrrr...... something like that.

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FOB 101: They are a very popular band with the kids (these days) - they usually get called "emo" by people I know, but I think they're straightforward pop-punk. They have great song titles and album art, but I admit a general inability to get into anything they perform.

Somewhat unusually, their public face is their bass player, Pete Wentz; he writes all of the songs and is by far the most famous member of the group (and the one who draws the strong emotions). Stump's relative silence and promiscuous collaboration mean that he's seen a little differently from Wentz; he's a frontman who nonetheless has the somewhat-divorced-from-the-group, Lead Guitarist, musician-not-world-savior type of fame.

It's hard to gauge their exact cultural position. They are loved and hated and mocked a lot, and the world never quite decides whether to take them seriously or halt at the tight pants and noisy guitars; I know though that (for one currently obvious example) if Stump has a new collaboration, some influential blog people will give it a rather objective and thoughtful listen. I suspect that people respect their taste and ambition, and that's what keeps them from being relegated to the mental teen-pop ghetto - or that's where I am with them, and I am the world, right?

I don't know what the connection is; FOB make their love of Morrissey well-known, so it's possible that a member just saw her touring with him and ideas were exchanged. At any rate, it's interesting to see KY collaborating with someone like this; it's a little like ...gosh...I don't even know; if it was 1988 and Madonna appeared on a Mary Margaret O'Hara record. Different fans, different worlds, does the contrast make both sides better, or how strange is this...?

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I loathe mtv and have never seen FOB perform, and rarely watch videos which are just product commercials anyway. I assumed that because Wentz's face is everywhere that he was the lead singer. Ugh. Whatever.

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eek, sorry, don't be mad...was just answering Tamari with info on the band...

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Of course not, that was great, thank you! I completely get it, thanks to your description, KYk's as well.
Well, it sounds like his popularity stands to expose her to an audience that might not have heard her otherwise....based on what you're describing.

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It is strange about the different fan base part.. I know one girl who loves Patrick Stump (and most likely has never heard KY) so I'm definitely asking her what she thinks about the song. But I'm glad someone from such a popular band would even consider working with such a small band.
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Oh no, not mad. Just sighing/rolling eyes at self type of thing.... I re-read my post and that "Whatever" looked kind of bitchy, sorry.

Would you say that Placebo, at the time, was in the same degree of mainstream popularity as FOB is now? (Brian Molko was/is the lead singer, right? just kidding.)

Also, after hearing "That's What it Takes, Dear" I think it sounds like something I'd hear on the radio. I mean that in a good way. But I don't know, this is where I feel conflicted. I want them to do well, get noticed, get the appreciation deserved, however, I don't want to see them in a music video posing with an ipod. I just can't see them ever doing that. Can you? So, my naive question is - if they were to have a huge hit, and gain a label, etc., would they have a choice in how they are marketed? I've heard about contracts that have certain stipulations like a certain number of albums the artist must complete within a certain amount of time, etc. as well as a number of brands, or products strategically placed in videos. I'm serious!

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The song is kickin'---although I prefer Bowie for a KY duet! The FOB gent sounds okay--I guess--but his voice lacks that underground/unusual mystique that makes Kristeen's so refreshing.

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By the numbers: Placebo consistently get top 10 albums in the UK and don't chart in the US. I have no idea if FOB are popular in the UK, but they have had at least one American #1 album and the singles go to the top 10.

I really can't see KY and BJ being eaten up by the major-label system; I understand the feeling when people you like seem to have the beginning of a shot, but they've been around for awhile and I assume they know what's what and how majors can treat people. Even if someone influential sees potential in the song and makes a move, I can't see them leaping into some situation where you have to pose with an iPod just to get out of debt.

I would really just like the album to come out now.

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I need the lyrics to this really hard, but I could survive without the full rundown if someone can just tell me what precedes "...so I grew three thousand throats."

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Ha....I thought it was "frozen throat". (?)

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I kind of like both of those now. I pictured a hybrid between a church organ and a hydra.

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I thought it was "Life's been choked, so I've grown 3 thousand throats"?
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