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superstar - member
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I know. I guess it's an inevitable result of a system where about seven women are allowed to be nationally known at all times, and they generally disappear into obscurity at thirty - so all people can do is compare any female performer to one of those same seven women, which inevitably becomes an extremely broad comparison. Female performers and male aren't usually thought of as belonging to the same genre, except for a few very officially recognized tokens, so "female" gets treated as a genre...

...not that the idea of genre isn't nonsense as well, but it's better for describing musicians if you have to, because it doesn't pre-dispose the listener and invite the "yes, they are alike"/"no, this is my favorite musician and they're not at ALL alike!" discussion.

Do I say that a lot, or just think it a lot? I fear the answer.

Anyway, this person's references were pretty complimentary (and even bucked my neat little explanation with a cross-gender comparison, albeit one to an obviously associated act) so I know I'm going for the throat unnecessarily, but you know, I just heard something I've heard a lot in relation to all the female-fronted acts I like.

superstar - member
375 posts

I think men are scared of strong women. I especially think industry men are scared of sirens because they actually have something to say.

What? No, no... Women don't have opinions! Now put on that thong-tha-tha-tha-thong and go dance up on that man over there! Oh no! I got a better idea. Go put on that thong-tha-tha-tha-thong, take a picture with this cancer patient, then tell MTV that you're a perfect role model for young girls! WE'LL MAKE MILLIONS!

Of course, then again you do have people like Björk, Tori Amos, Suzanne Vega... Kristeen Young, paving the way for women, but hey, the radio won't play them! MTV won't show them! And when you DO see them it's just some TMZ-esque type deal where all you hear is "THAT CRAZY JAPANESE... WHAT? SHE'S ICELANDIC?! WHAT'S ICELAND? WHATEVER. THAT CRAZY ICELANDIC BITCH JUST ATTACKED THAT REPORTER! MUST HAVE BEEN THAT TIME OF THE MONTH!" Or, "Hey! DID YA HEAR THAT THAT CHRISTINE YOUNG GIRL WAS SLEEPING WITH MORRISSEY AND TONY VISCONTI?!?! NO WONDER SHE GOT THE OPENING SPOT!"

I think people like to criticize reguardless; yet like to criticize women especially because it is easy to call them weird or to fabricate some story about how they are whores who will sleep with any producer to get her way to the top.

Gosh... I'd make a great feminist.

superstar - member
293 posts

You already DO make a great feminist!

"Sirens" ... that's great; I love that word, Yeah, people are crazy. The sheer physical overwhelm of information and popular culture that we are now experiencing seems to encourage a weird Machiavellian view of human nature, with the observer's view of publicly visible relationships (business, personal and artistic) reduced to simple equations of money, hatred, sex and gender essentialism.

I'm afraid whenever any artist I like becomes Popular Culture, no matter how marginal, because just being seen by the global audience must hurt the mind and heart permanently and in an almost physical way, even if you want it and like it. Maybe indie snobbishness, the fear of fame for "your" artist, isn't all that rooted in the fear of no longer being "cool" - maybe it's actually rooted in real protective instinct, no matter how unhelpful the direction. They might be two sides of the same thing.

I think the Internet has made all this a whole lot worse. I sometimes wonder who'll make the great work of art about popular culture, the Internet and the brutality of modern thought, and what form it will take. I don't think it has been done yet.

superstar - member
293 posts

(While we're talking about terrific female artists who can't get radio play, remember Poe? I love Poe. She had a couple hits but the one that's made in into recent-past nostalgia rotation, at least in my city, is the "Hey Pretty" remix with the male spoken-word verses about a woman and a fast car. Typ-typ...)

superstar - member
454 posts

YES I remember POE. Remember the song "Angry Johnny", "Trigger Happy Jack" ? I wonder where she is now. Utah? I'll search TMZ and get back to you...

superstar - member
375 posts

Hm... maybe I should befriend some feminists. The only feminist I know is this lesbian... not that that's a bad thing it's just kind of a stereotype.

Poe did Angry Johnny?! I never knew who did that but I've always loved it. Come to think of it, I've always heard of her but never knew who she was either. Remember Veruca Salt? They were cool, but got airplay so who cares. Oh my god... THE SHAGGS. Now THERE was girl power. =)

Most of the music I listen to is female artists. Mostly because I got tired of guitar rock. I mean, my main loves are still Warren Zevon and The White Stripes (i always loved Meg and wanted to see more of her... Jack was cool, and cute but he bored me), but I mostly listen to women. I love women. Too bad I'm not straight... haha. Hm... I hate the idea that I'm giving into THAT stereotype.

Anyway, the music industry sucks and women are cool. So, dear mainsteam entertainment, play women more... especially KRISTEENYOUNG.

rookie - member
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Not very recent, but Poe performed the vocals on a song called Extraordinary Way by Conjure One. Still the same sexy voice.

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superstar - member
398 posts

I wonder about their stage outfits, too. I'm sure if someone saw an old KY outfit at a thrift store they'd be a bit puzzled.

superstar - member
375 posts
If I saw old KY stuff at a thrift store I'd but it all. Not that I would (or could) wear it, but, you know, I'm obsessed.
superstar - member
398 posts

I'd buy it too then lose enough weight to where I could fit them!

superstar - member
398 posts

I liked Poe a lot.

superstar - member
375 posts
Then, I'd cold steal you and put you in a glass case.
superstar - member
398 posts

Have you guys ever seen this??

superstar - member
454 posts

Didn't someone else we know used to roll around on stage....Can't remember.

superstar - member
398 posts

Hahah, well the caption said she fell!

regular - member
60 posts

Fell?! I don't think so.
But in any case, I do find this photo is rather comical.
Thanks for this and the article scan too! It is too big for your scanner though, maybe move it over to cut off the image, rather than the words? Only if you can.
I just happened to browse through it in a magazine shop, thanks to your alert.
Muchos Gracias!

superstar - member
398 posts

Well you see, when I scanned it I had the whole page in and you could see it fine. When I posted it here the edge of the comments column cropped off part of the side. So I'll fix it, I guess!

superstar - member
293 posts

Kept singing though!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29235406@N03/2732188319/

Anyway, if you move like that and wear those shoes, you're going to fall down occasionally. In fact, you've got to fall down occasionally, because otherwise it stops being exciting when you don't. Same principle as the appeal of Olympic figure skating (except that a lot of those viewers are presumably watching in the explicit hope of a fall...never mind...).

superstar - member
398 posts

Haha, you're right, Rachel.

novice - member
19 posts

"Fell? I don't think so." --- You were there Tamari?

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